比如各大知名外资所，目前B&M的international associate,每月45K左右，不包括SIGN-ON和YEAR-END BONUS，这个抬头基本是给刚毕业的本科生到美国TOP5 LAW SCHOOL读完1年LLM，考完NY BAR回北京或上海用的，如果是有3年以上工作经验LLM和JD，现在北京上海的基本行情是8万USD以上（不包括SIGN-ON和YEAR-END BONUS）作FIRST YEAR ASSOCIATE，香港基本在这个基础上高20％左右。在美国就更多了，我一个大学同班同学，在COLUMBIA LAW SCHOOL读完LLM，在FRIED FRANK NY OFFICE，16.5W USD第一年。
Hi, whether you believe it or not is up to you, but I did not lie either. Did you notice when my first message was posted? That's one year ago. At that time, the person was earning the salary I said before. I am just updating the recent development of him. Of course, the person also felt he was underpaid, so he managed to get a better position. But he indeed started low, that's not a fact that can be denied.
I also believe what you said is true. There is no point arguing about that, since what an individual graduate can earn is purely a case by case situation. It depends on many factors, incl. personal attributes and capabilities, not academic background alone.
I am not discussing what is the average income a typical Insead gradute should earn. My initial point is to say a MBA graduate can negotiate a better compensation package if he can secure a job offer before he lands in China. I also feel Insead is a renowned university, so I pitied the Insead graduate and thought he was worth more than he was receiving. Don't misinterpret what I said.
leonchew
Got it. Actually, consolidating two messages posted by you is also related to what I said. Even having started with a below average package, the MBAer graduating from the top-tier biz school will promote much faster than others.
Besides, as far as I know, in addition to consulting and IBD, the position of lawyers is also well-paid.
Adagio
Probably you are right. But it is still hard to say definitely to what extent the MBA background contributes to his success. The Insead guy I know actually is very skilful at office politics. All of our colleagues think that's the key reason for him to move up so quickly. Of course, his Insead background does provide him a solid foundation.
Put it another way, it is like running a multiple regression, Y = aX1+bX2+cX3+.... If we say Y stands for career success, or the amount of salary, X(i)s respresent MBA degree, personal attribute, interpersonal skills, experiences, luck..., it is hard to know which independent variable has the largest coefficient, and whether it is significant or not. I cannot jump to a conclusion saying one particular factor is the most essential one leading to career success without sufficient evidence and careful study.
What we have seen are just individual cases, which may be isolated and biased, and cannot be generalized to a large scale. So, there is no way to verify who is right or wrong.